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" Good morning and welcome to the drama on Chris Angel -- primary is -- a week away. If you haven't been calling this duck race well we're gonna appear on the ground."

" But eager to. This -- And bring the politics may read any reduce you to all the old that are running in the primary we see on and it will be -- fifteen. And Democrats are an independent. -- different I mean Tom mark is here with us as well."

" Well a lot of folks who may not be from you."

" First of all I in the first -- protester you mentioned and I've been so since 2005. I started my third term last November. I'm also a small business owner looks at things may be amongst the field candidates as a mean that the leader and a small business owner I think my experiences represented EX and about 70% of the states it's out there. And I've also served on governor's council first early childhood education. -- bachelor's degree in management and MBA in marketing and and I'd look in Connecticut for about twenty years had treat children."

" So motivation for joining the race as V you know the very parties that Democrats and Republicans and seems like on any"

" government and there's not a lot of independent."

" No there's not -- at my initial motivation. Really focused on the inclusion of a greater voice of municipal government and state government. I have a passion for accountability in governance and I think the closer that. Governmental decisions are made to the people who are paying tax dollars for better government organized city. And there hasn't been really a bipartisan effort to create. Not a layer of government and regional form of government debt to Democrats and the Republicans. Have been focusing on at least early on in the campaign. Somehow get out of the the master -- and -- that was really concern of mine -- we were gonna do it continued service to the voters. Then behind that it is spoke -- many people -- got into the campaign and there was a general consensus -- go back. They had into a more moderate centrist position in both parties and that's where. The consensus. -- decisions that state government made and the last. Say for five -- election cycle we've become increasingly more partisan and I think that limited servants disservice to do the residents Connecticut."

" I think that any government really -- the individual may need to --"

" I don't think Britney has failed Islam -- money that -- state government. Comes from all of us out in the towns and cities and make the state and did the legislature has taken entitled to all they really have been. Distracted and their legislation and continue to put additional responsibility. On the municipalities without providing the funding to do and what I -- provide funding they're taking our money away and then back giving it back -- Charging us with greater concern with education. Environmental issues and things like that."

" And under any executive branch they need they haven't been supportive are they yet they look at the bigger is facing state. It's and were in a freewheeling manner. And dry up the resources we have at the local level and you see that with the continued regimes over education budget town budget. Local infrastructure not being done because of that distract governance at the."

" Now a party affiliation from Republican and independent."

" Not really because of that where. Where my concern came from -- regional hit about starting as an independent but obviously that challenges. So great without party structure. And I didn't really don't have any format to express my concern so I. A Republican I entered the race for the Republican but I felt increasingly -- comparable. Toeing the party line and putting out the rhetoric it was really required. In order to attract the big delegate -- from the count committee and that was sent to my fellow Republican candidates as well as a democratic candidates only had many shared event. What I was hearing -- a lot of rhetoric. That was going to excite the base but certainly not by the is that the state. It was gonna required to get us out of this serious situations that were then. In March 2 at a televised debate I was contacted by the independent party. They were -- interest in what I had to say during that debate we spent about a month. Going back in -- talking to each other I was very impressed with their commitment -- good government. And it seemed like a natural match so I made the switch."

" What you he's -- problem."

" Well and distorting -- to that would be jobs. Without jobs being added that the financial aspect the quality of life you know all Poland that. But I think in order for -- have significant improvement in jobs really gonna have to have some significant improvements in our regulatory structure. Our tax structure we can't get around -- base we can't do much better job at educating our children and providing them -- opportunity so. -- there's going to be a lot of cross pollination what's necessary to get jobs back on track."

" Now you're independent. If you are at how we work with the other. You know the other party -- and they seem like you come from left field will be in terms of your party Philly should."

" I think we're gonna have an advantage is as it both of the major party candidates are out there they're saying things. As this part of their campaign that are just not gonna be practical solutions and the one issue that I think what you exemplify that didn't. I -- arbitration on there on the Republican side you hear of many all the candidates saying that they would do away with our arbitration. And on the democratic side you're hearing. The candidates. Really a yield to -- organized labor base think that we have to"

" protect everything you own reality."

" Binding arbitration was put in place to protect. And I just citizen to Connecticut so clean fired teachers to go on strike and it democratically written is never gonna support through Google binding arbitration and nor would I. In coming to the table with that severe of an attitude you're not gonna get anywhere and find common ground. Conversely. If you're coming to the table saying that we have to protect everything organized labor has built. There are too many things -- have to within the labor structure of state government. To allow hardline position I got to take hold and you're not gonna be able to build consensus -- I haven't. Strong belief that by going to. The moderate senator and not having to that total hard line party we're gonna and I'm gonna be a better position to build consensus and more importantly. And governor. Using the bully pulpit to bring the accountability of the legislature back to the people just saying you put in office to take care of these issues. The legislature is doing a good job here they're not doing good job there. We don't hold them accountable to the states or a commitment to be a better position because of my more centrist idea."

" Now you. I don't have that right not the -- and -- are providing. The router and I met the iMac and more believable to fill in and it is that is that because. You're really doing -- grass and I'll not having you know -- money I mean is that make you more relatable to the -- aren't --"

" I think I think when I was running as a Republican. It would is the pretty evident as we were going to different -- committee and different of that as a group of candidates. Mark Bowden the other colonel lieutenant governor Kennedy on the Republican side and I really were able to. Connect with the people we are talking to because we were able to talk. On a practical level. About the issues that -- facing. A constituent into the state and what I found is that is some of the candidates don't have any -- government. -- understand what. Education -- hearing is that as the conflict as a concept but they don't know how it. Functions in an early with the municipal budget and I taught -- type it is as time has actually what I've noticed is that. Candidate that are spending an awful lot of money and have a lot of consultants telling them what -- dark. They've noticed statistics and they can -- statutes -- things like that. But their understanding of the issue is very Allah when you get into the practicality of implementing any of their ideas. They really falls short because they haven't lived and I think as a municipal leader and a small business owner. I have lived it dated date frustrations of Arkansas government. And I understand. From a practical matter what is necessary and I understand. But that means to get up in the morning and go from my company and work from town and faced the challenges that this -- put forward. So much agreed that any the other candidates out there."

" And what would you say is ignored in the big thing and painful."

" I think that I traded as. Good government county government and I really think that New England in Connecticut in particular. Isn't any better situation in the didn't most -- the rest of the country. In net we have been very strong government located throughout this statement -- a 190 pound. That's re seeing most -- have a surplus. We may have a lot of rank you're in our in our budget deliberations and and some failed some past. But honestly and openly debated there's very little -- here are a little let the local level we are very high value back the money that respect. But -- we can incorporate more -- into our state government we're gonna get activities that. The process is -- that we all understand. Are the right thing to do that so many levels we've been borrowing too much money spending too much money going beyond our means. Apparently haven't been doing that I think we need to tap into that I think that's gonna help provide the stability that both. Our resident and the business community looking or as we move ahead."

" Now. -- our -- really is an African American community in the great entertainment here though lots of into. The biggest -- in -- it is a whole."

" I think that. The question liked it is really what separates the independent party from the other candidates who is amino Cicero -- is my lieutenant governor running mate and the stroke -- the former. President of the lot of very NAACP. Served on the state board of 35 year. Police officer with a lot of very -- and up front I haven't lived. Through a lot of the this social issues that -- your ordinary -- its -- hasn't been a very active. Civic leader in those areas in Winston and I talk about it. This sort of what beat what you would be I think what would be education because if we don't look better job of educating. Art our urban are usually throughout the state weren't activity job growth we're gonna see a continued problem with the judicial system incarceration. We -- greater parental involvement. With our youth we need to have stronger role models in the community show. Here's what hardware brings it to you which are minding your efforts static thing you're gonna you're gonna succeed them whether that means a four year college or being the best auto mechanic you can be. Or musician."

" You have to work hard at securing your examples but I think we work hard and on education in our urban centers organist he. Greeting increases. Job opportunity and we're gonna see a reduction in some of the issue with incarceration unequal treatment that has plagued. So many of our urban areas."

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" Probably something no nobody around here knows anyway brought a lot of different areas but. I would that."

" Into garage band and what about when I was a kid I like play delegates aren't they all through my -- into my early twenties. And I am a closet wanna be rock ark red as I have my druthers I'd love to be great musician and yet they're wearing what. Some great buds like kind of got in the middle of that white children responsibility to I'm. Happy to have all that I output."

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" And it one's deadly we're here with former interim mayor Dan welcome."

" Well thank you it's great to be with you end have the opportunity to go to your listeners --"

" I like that we've been telling -- this -- gonna -- the -- type show would you how to discuss and to introduce a remain on our email --"

" Yes I and I and I think that's most of the folks in the Connecticut in all though I had at. Long. Career and Stanford. I was mayor there for fourteen years and an active in the community well before that on a grassroots basis. You know being well known beyond your own city that grew up then -- then there's there's -- sometimes tough so. This is a great opportunity for bad -- for people to know that it'll. For instance someone they hit the youngest -- child and that family my mother was a school nurse and my dad sold insurance and on the seventh on and and I'd love for people to understand what motivates me to be involved in public service. You know when I was born I was born with some fairly. Fairly severe. Learning disabilities and physical disabilities which I had to overcome and I think in many ways. That has caused me to eat. Desirous of serving other people making community stronger and better and and that's in part what motivates."

" And you all your time or for me uniquely qualified to render -- of the problems are in -- in the."

" So -- interest in Connecticut is one of the most urban state in the nation and and if we. Measure of a state urban NASA it if you can use that term. By the number of people who. Our lives per Acre -- per square mile we are one of the most urban states and yet we haven't had a governor whose specialty it is. Urban policy. -- and if I'm elected governor I'll be the first person to really come to that office being somewhat expert in urban policy having been mayor of the large. Metropolitan city have for fourteen years having"

" lowered crime map build affordable housing increased job opportunities addressed staying."

" educational achievement gap created universal pre kindergarten programs. Created programs. For training and employment. Reached out to the minority and women owned business community to make sure that they were overcoming some other struggles. Just things that I actually did it."

" And I don't talk about them I did I and it really does make me a little bit different than than the other democratic candidate or any of the Republicans running for governor."

" For. That relate to John Kerry and -- bet big this."

" Well you know and I guess there's a big difference between myself and and mr. LaMont -- LaMont talks about the small businessmen and having. Seven employees in the state Connecticut right I ran a big enterprise half billion dollar corporation. Called the city of Stamford. During the fourteen years that I was mayor we created an environment. That -- established Stanford has wanted to -- destinations for the financial services industry not just in America but in the world. RBS in UBS and bank of Ireland and and many other international banks. -- had -- not major North American operations in this effort that would come undermine watched. And and it was done. Because we created an environment in which people want to -- half of their corporate offices or they wanted to have some number of your employees. Being able to be each in general -- with the other people. Involved of that industry in a lot of people talk about clusters I created"

" one."

" Brian in mountain. Is the big problem overall feel they know John is a big."

" What jobs is a big lesson here without a job the biggest job and they're the biggest problem mistake Connecticut and jobs as oxygen and and there are far too many people out of work. I'm probably about nine in the two thirds percent. The people that state Connecticut are unemployed. I think at least that many are underemployed. On the and I don't imagine that there is a listener to -- to. It doesn't fear that that they may become unemployed. So that's a problem. And it and it's. Because Connecticut took its -- off the ball orbit for twenty year period of time Connecticut failed to grow. Job done on that basis even though the other 48 state that's. -- of the state besides Connecticut in Michigan which actually lost jobs. The other 48 they shared somewhere between sixteen and 22 million jobs dependent on what you're you're talking. Com. So our performance has just been abysmal and and that efforts. That failure has been led by governors. I understand economic development and and the necessity of creating an environment in which people. -- That your community or your state. I had the right combination of strong economic development policies could tax policy good trainer. I training and educational programs of foreign slowly eased"

" and a great quality of life com."

" That can be offered a -- in order to date here and large and so here moved here I understand how to get that -- The outlook the other big problem what are the big problems job is number one. But but right alongside it back in May be a -- number wanted the fact that. Our state government. Into bankruptcy if protests purposes. If gap financing rules that apply generally accepted accounting principles of the data Connecticut you have to admit. On that with a 22%. Projected budget deficit we are effectively bankrupt we need someone. Until leaders. Through. The -- I don't know whose judgments that you are invested in that you believe then. Who -- like me I pledged not to balance our budget on the actually the folks or at least among us not only 500000 people ordered as a non government. -- for a their health care or there. Drug treatment or alcohol treatment are taken care of their elderly turned a nursing home. We're going to need someone who values we value. And -- person -- values are it's I believe I'm. I person I think that my fourteen years as mayor of the city's Stanford. -- or my activity is a small businessmen are practicing attorney our former prosecutor. I'll qualify me. To understand the difficulties that people are having in their personal lives and to leave this state true that's great financial crisis."

" Norway former interim mayor minimally -- design and so the other Democrat in the gubernatorial race never mind -- be like to draw a nine point three W live eat lots."

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